characters!!!!!!!

buji · Post by **buji** » March 22nd, 2007, 3:39 pm

all right, lets see if i can make this work.

ima make anothe post in a sec to show the classes and races, and basic necessary info. just pick wat fits you best.

the D&D char sheet is too large to post, so we ll do this:
post char sheets here - ill put mine here.

@jae-tell me how this works. ill put everything in that applies to my char, and leave out anything we might not need, for the sake of space. Also, if you want me to change anything here for our campaign, just tell me.=P

@all-dont worry, its not as complicated as it looks. Most of it is passive. Also, jae or i could do some of the more complicated stuff for you, since you proly dont have the books or stuff.

proly a good idea to copy and paste then just change wat you need when you do yours, now that im looking back on it all. this is the longest part of the game, so dont worry!!!!!!

Player: buji
Name: Rhonal
Race: Human
Class: Cleric
Level: 1
Gender: Male
Alignment: Neutral Good

Experience Points: 0
Gold: 8 gp (gold peices)

STR: 15 Mod: +2
DEX: 17 Mod: +3
CON: 15 Mod: +2
INT: 13 Mod: +1
WIS: 18 Mod: +4
CHA: 12 Mod: +1
(see jaegar for instructions)

Total = Base + Mod (base depends on lvl)
Fortitude: 4 = 2 + 2 (Consitution Mod)
Reflex : 3 = 0 + 3 (Dexterity Mod)
Will : 6 = 2 + 4 (Wisdom Mod)

HP: 8
AC: 17 10 + Armor + Shield + Dex Mod

Base Attack: +0 (depends on lvl)
Grapple: +2 Base Attack + Strength Mod

Weapon 1: Quarter Staff
Dmg: 1d6/1d6

Weapon 2: Light Crossbow
Dmg: 1d8

Armor: Scale Mail
AC bonus: +4

Skills Total = Mod + Rank Points
Heal: 8 = 4 + 4
Knowledge(religion): 5 = 1 + 4
Concentration: 6 = 2 + 4
Diplomacy: 5 = 1 + 4
(ranks to spend each lvl, like skill points in RO.
changes possible when you lvl-ask jae fo details.
Each skill uses the mod that applies to it.
EX: Climb uses the str mod, heal uses wisdom mod
CHANGES PENDING)
*cross class: costs two points for one rank

Feats:
Two-Weapon Fighting
Ambidexterity
(You get feats depending on lvl, can trade 1 when you lvl-ask jaegar for details)

Special
Turn Undead (4 times/day)
Spontaneous Cure Spells
Turn Earth Creatures (4 time/day)
Turn Water Creature (4 times/day)
(You get special abilities depending on lvl, can trade 1 when you lvl-ask jaegar for details)

Miscellaneous Items
Pack

Deity: Obad-Hai
Domains: Air and Fire

Spells
Air
Obscuring Mist

Fire
Burning Hands*

Level 0 Spells
Create Water- 2 gallons/lvl
Cure minor wounds - 1 point
detect magic - within 60ft*
detect poison - in 1 creature or object
guidance - +1 on roll,save, or check*
light - object shines like torch
mending - minor repairs*
purify food and drink - 1 ft3/lvl
read magic - read scrolls or spellbooks
resistance - +1 on saving throws
virtue - +1 temporary hp

Level 1 Spells
Bane - -1atk and -1 on saves against fear on enemies
Bless - allies get +1 atk and +1 saves against fear
Bless Water - makes holy water
Cause fear - 1 creature flees for 1d4 rounds
command - 1 creature obeys 1 word command for 1 round
comprehend languages - written and spoken
cure light wounds - 1d8+1/lvl dmg (max +5)*
deathwatch - sees how near death subjects are within 30ft
detect chaos/evil/good/law - creatures, spells, objects
detect undead - within 60 ft
divine favor - +1 atk and dmg per 3 lvls
doom - subject suffers -2 to atks, dmg, saves, and checks
endure elements -ignores 5 dmg/round from 1 energy type
entropic shield - ranged atks against you suffer 20% miss chance
invisibility to undead - 1 subject/lvl
magic stone - 3 stones get +1 atk, deal 1d6+1 dmg
magic weapon - weapon gains +1 bonus
Obscuring Mist - fog surrounds you
Protection from chaos/evil/good/law - +2 AC, saves, counter mind control, hedge out elementals and outsiders
random action - 1 creature for 1 round
remove fear - +4 saves against fear one subject +1/4 lvls
sanctuary - no one can attack
shield of faith - aura grants +2 or higher deflection bonus
summon monster I - calls outsider to fight

note:
only 1 domain spell per day
only 3 lvl 0 spells per day
only 2 lvl 1 spells per day
'*' means that spell is prepared

Background
When i was 14, my small woodland village was raided and destroyed by orcs. I fled into the woods to escape the slaughter, and became lost for many days. When i was near exhaustion and hopelessly lost, i came upon a secluded temple to Obad-Hai, god of Nature. The preists there took me in, and trained me in their ways. I, not content to stay in the woods foreverm quickly decided that my path would be that of a cleric. I would spread faith in m patron deity, who saved me from starvation and homelessness.
Now I am 20, and i am ready to begin traveling the world anew, doing my lord's bidding.

Jaegar · Post by **Jaegar** » March 22nd, 2007, 3:46 pm

ehh, gotta go to work now. I'll give my input when I get back

ok, I have time now...

I can't figure out which version you're using. Is it 3.0 or 3.5?

The Ambidexterity feat only exists in 3.0, but you have the Survival skill listed, which is 3.5. Also, in 3.5 rangers don't get their combat style till level 2, but they do get Track as a bonus feat at level 1.

Another thing, where are you getting all the crazy skill points O.O? Rangers (in 3.5) get 6 skill points per level. Your first level skill points are x4... so you should have (6+2)*4=32 skill points. You have 40 skill points listed, and I know rangers didn't get 8 skill points per level in 3.0

Also, I'm ashamed at your laziness in the whole age-equivalences thing

14 human=~94 elven
19 human=~130 elven

finally, holy crap >.< 15 con on an elf? you are one of the hardiest elves in existence. lol

I'm not even gonna comment on the rest of your ability scores. Wait, I lied, yes I am. Why is it that in the dozens of ability score sets I've rolled up I've never gotten one as highly powered as the one you're using? It seems like every other character someone else makes gets "lucky rolls" and ends up with no modifiers under +2. I'd probably die of boredom playing a character that overpowered anyway. I enjoy compensating for an imperfection or two.

Oh yeah, the whole "NO RESET" thing. I firmly support the character retraining rules presented in the Player's Handbook II. It basically says that every time you gain a level you can trade in one feature and re-learn something. options include...

Removing ranks from one(1) skill and placing them as you see fit
Losing a feat and gaining another in it's place as long as it doesn't serve as a prerequisite and you can prove you were eligible for the feat at the time you took the feat being replaced.
Re-making a choice you had of class features (rogue special ability, substitution level, ect)
Replacing a known spell (makes things much easier for sorcerers)

Keep in mind you can only do one per level change. I like the system because it lets you change as you gain access to more additional materials and also learn more as a player.

buji · Post by **buji** » March 23rd, 2007, 11:09 am

all right-sorry there on parts of it.

yeah-oops about my char skills. i kind of copied my real char sheet (lvl 3 char) and tried to just convert it to lvl1. i forgot to take care of the skill points. that was pure carelessness.

i dont know about the dice roles, but i can redo them if you want. do you roll 15 times and take the best 6, or just role 6 times and decide to scrap the whole bunch or keep them? i ve seen it both ways. i did the 15 way. ill make a whole new char when i get home (im in video tech class right now), and hopefully thatll be more fitting.

ive never heard of the retraining you mentioned as you lvl, but it sounds fair, and you are the DM. ill fix my post accordingly. i only have the players handbook 1. sorry bout that, but as much as i love the game, there simply isnt a group i can play with often enough to invest more than just the 3 basic books.

these mistakes were not due to a disagreement on the rules, just amatter of awareness.

as for the age of my elf - i was lazy. *bows head in shame*

*sniffle*is it pretty at least? easy to read? give necessary info? *sniffle*

Jaegar · Post by **Jaegar** » March 23rd, 2007, 1:52 pm

lol, yeah I like the format. You may wanna switch the hyphen in front of the modifiers to "+"s though. It looks a little misleading. Don't worry about me being critical like that, I never mean it in a bad way.

The big question is, are your books 3.0 or 3.5? 3.5 is more streamlined and balanced. 3.0 ranger sucked a lot. Their only features were favored enemy, combat style, and a few spells. Now rangers get lots of nice abilities like camouflage and trackless step plus a better favored enemy system.

As for the ability scores... HOLY CRAP YOU THOUGHT YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO ROLL 15 TIMES?? O.o??? lol! I have no idea where you got that. I'm gonna go get my PH so I can quote it...

ABILITY SCORES
To create an ability score for your character, roll four six sided dice (4d6). Disregard the lowest die roll and total the three highest ones. The result is a number between 3 (horrible) and 18 (tremendous). The average ability score for a typical commoner is 10 or 11, but your character is not typical. The most common ability scores for player characters (PCs) are 12 and 13. (That's right, the average character is above average.)
Make this roll six times, recording each result on a piece of paper. Once you have six scores, assign each score to one of the six abilities.

--Player's Handbook 3.5, page 7

and that's the official method, word for word.

I prefer characters who have a couple of strong points, so I like this method...

you get a free 18
roll 5 more ability scores (4d6 and ignore the lowest roll), but reroll any 1s that come up (till none of the dice are 1s)
arrange the scores as you like

It makes characters with much higher scores than the usual way, but oh well, it's that much more fun to be had.

This method guarantees that you get at least one high score, and safeguards against crappy stuff happening (ever rolled a 4? I have).

Here's an example set rolled with this method (from a character I'm about to start a campaign with)
18, 14, 13, 14, 12, 13
It's less than ideal, but with racial ability modifiers, I got exactly what I wanted (<3 elven subraces)

Tahlin Eilvinen, Gray Elf (Fighter/Swashbuckler)
Str 12
Dex 20
Con 11
Int 16
Wis 12
Cha 13

Finally, don't worry if you don't have a lot of books. I understand. I didn't get my ginormous stash of books till after I got a job XD

buji · Post by **buji** » March 23rd, 2007, 2:26 pm

well, how i learned was kind of eclectic. my dad taught me how to play first. he learned version 1 rules, and was really big on it- (not much to do while training/camping in the desert in the army, i guess).

also, im very familiar with the version 2 rules, from the best RPG PC game ever. So incredibly open, i played for 180+ hours before i started on the story. If you ever find it, check out Baldur's Gate. very detailed, even dialog options. and no force driving you to do what they want. although the story is very interesting and if you never play it, you really miss alot of value in the game.

anyway, i have version 3.0 monster manual and player's handbook. before i acquired the money to buy the 3.0 DM guide tho, they switched to 3.5. talk about just missing it. maybe a week either way and id have a sstrong set of rules. meh.

anyway, ill just remake my char in a little bit, after i finish theese posts, then ill update. thanks for the rules posts. um-since i have version 3 players handbook, please let me know about any abilities or things i missed. btw-do i still get two-weapon fighting and ambidexterity when using light or medium armior? i love it /gg

btw-blank should be posting his char literally any moment now. weve played together before, so he might have some conglomeration of rules like i do, or he might just use his v3.5 stuff. those are the book he has.

EDIT: lol-i rolled new stats and i think youd be unhappy so i redid them. 18,17,15,15,15,11. i must be one lucky son of a gun. i updated my skills and new stats, so i should have everything but the special abilities not mentioned in the v3.0. better?

Ghost B3N · Post by **Ghost B3N** » March 28th, 2007, 5:42 am

i dont realy get it

Player: Ben
Name: Guhostusubenu
Race: Human
Class: Assassin cross
Level: 98
Gender: Male
Alignment: F*CKING Good

lol ?? XD

Jaegar · Post by **Jaegar** » March 28th, 2007, 7:18 am

ummm... ok.

@bujin- Ambidexterity was removed in 3.5 because dual wielding used to require too many feats. You now get the benefits of the both feats from just two weapon fighting. =D

buji · Post by **buji** » March 28th, 2007, 10:59 am

blank, hadvi, falco, and any other that want to play D&D,

POST YOUR CHARS-JAEGAR PLANS TO START THE DAY AFTER TOMORROW!!!!

i know tarquin and i are great, but a bigger party would be better =P

darkblank · Post by **darkblank** » March 29th, 2007, 7:29 pm

ok...here goes my preliminary char sheet, ill prolly edit it and fix w/e i screwed up on later, just reveiw it and piont out flaws...im really tired atm for some stupid reason /swt

Player: Blank
Name: Merrak Voogljiggy
Race: Tiefling
Class: Monk
Level: 1
Gender: Male
Alignment: Lawful Neutral
Experience Points: 0
Gold: 5 gp (gold peices)

STR: 15 Mod: +2
DEX: 20 (18+2racial) Mod: +5
CON: 12 Mod: +1
INT: 16 (14+2racial) Mod: +3
WIS: 18 Mod: +4
CHA: 11 (13-2racial) Mod: 0
(I'm 100% serious on the 2 18's, one was the free one, the other was a natural 18))

Total = Base + Mod (base depends on lvl)
Fortitude: 3 = 2 + 1 (Consitution Mod)
Reflex : 7 = 2 + 5 (Dexterity Mod)
Will : 6 = 2 + 4 (Wisdom Mod)

HP: 9
AC: 19=10 + Armor(0) + Shield(0) + Dex Mod(5)+Wis mod(4)(unarmored and unencumbered)

Base Attack: +0
Grapple: 6=Base Attack(0) + Strength Mod(2)+4(Improved Grapple)
Attack Bonus(melee): Base Attack Bonus(0)+Str Mod(2)+Size Mod
b]Attack Bonus(ranged)[/b]:Base Attack Bonus(0)+Dex Mod(5)+Size Mod

Weapon 1: Unarmed
Dmg: 1d6/1d6

Armor: None
AC bonus: 0

Skills: Total = Rank Points + Mod
Balance: 9=4+5
Escape Artist: 7=2+5
Knowlege(religion): 7=4+3
Listen: 6=2+4
Move Silently: 9=4+5
Sense Motive: 8=4+4
Spot: 8=4+4
Tumble: 9=4+5
(+2 racial bonus on bluff and hide checks)

Feats:
Run
Improved Grapple(Monk Bonus Feat)

Class Features:
Unarmed Strike
Flurry of Blows
AC Bonus (why my wis mod applies to AC)

Special:
Darkness (1/day)(level of spell=class level)(racial)

Miscellaneous Items:
Backpack
Waterskin (In Backpack)
1 day's trail rations (In Backpack)
Bedroll (In Backpack)

Deity: Obad-Hai

Appearance:
Eyes: Dark Red
Hair: Jet Black
Height: 5' 6" (157 cm)
Weight: 147lbs (66.8 kg)
Other: Merrak has fangs instead of normal humanoid teeth and has short horns sprouting from his forehead (This is due to his fiend ancestors)

Background:
Tieflings have always been shunned by regular society, and most likely will continue to for as long as they exist. Merraks parents were smart, his mother knew his father was part fiend, but that never stoipped her from falling for him, but his father had crazy ambitions. At the age of 5 his father became a well known person in town, yet a few days later he was found to be a Tiefling, Merrak was unaware of the problems this cause and did not understand why he could never leave the house and associate with those whom had known him since birth. News quickly spread across the town that his father was a Tiefling, and as quickly as the power was given to him, the power was removed...by force from his fathers body.

Merraks mother ran from the scene, taking her son with her, yet by then it had not mattered, Merrak was already scarred for life as he had seen his father being beat to death by the townspeople. Merrak became shunned by his own mother, forcing him to wear a cloak during the daytime and during the night to watch her drink away her sorrows in whatever pub she found, she would drink away any money she managed to scrounge up. She continually blamed thier postition in society on Merrak so when she was not doing meaningless labor to make some quick cash to drink away, or whoring away her body to make a quick copper piece, she beat him as frequently as she was drunk.
At the age of 7 Merrak ran from his mother as she was in a room of an inn with a "client"he ran as far away from her as he possibly could, he stumbled into a forest where he was lost for a long time. He was lost in the forest for 2 or 3 days...or was it 9, he couldnt remember, he just wandered and eventually found his way to a Monastery, the monks there followed the way of Obad-Hai. Merrak joined the Monastery, where although maintaining a life of an outcast, he has stayed there since age 7 until present time at age 16. He met others at the monatstery such as Rhonal.

Jaegar · Post by **Jaegar** » March 29th, 2007, 10:11 pm

looks good for the most part blank. I'll point out all the stuff I see right now to make it easier for you to fix

Your int modifier says +1, but it's +3
your AC says 17, but it's 19
you didn't add you con modifier to your HP, so your hp is actually 9
if you have improved grapple, you get a +4 bonus to grapple checks, so your grapple modifier is +6
You don't have your attack bonuses listed yet
you're still missing a feat (monks get a bonus feat at level one)

aaand I think that's it. btw, are you using 3.0 books also? Monk was also improved from 3.0 to 3.5 (better flurry of blows and more options of bonus feats)

buji · Post by **buji** » March 30th, 2007, 11:04 am

*smack in the face*
....ouch jaegar....

heheh - blank has 3.5

he got them just a couple months after me - right when they were comin out.

blank cant be on as much for the next few weeks cuz his grandparents are over at his house, i guess hes just not allowed as much.

darkblank · Post by **darkblank** » March 30th, 2007, 3:07 pm

alright, ima fix this stuff really soon but ya, for now, my grandparents are living with us but they say they are moving to a niehgbors house sunday, but if they hasve to stay more then a week after tht, then they plan on moving back here
Like...while i was typing all this out my grandma was yelling at me for playing D&D, she was like "You're a satanist!" and all this other stuff, ok, gonna edit and fix now

Dark Falco · Post by **Dark Falco** » March 30th, 2007, 8:00 pm

Player: Falco
Name: Ulfgar
Race: Dwarf
Class: Figher
Level: 1
Gender: Male
Alignment: Lawful Neutral
Experience Points: 0
Gold: 11 gp (gold peices)

STR: 18 Mod: +4
DEX: 17 Mod: +3
CON: 18 (16+2racial) Mod: +4
INT: 13 Mod: +1
WIS: 12 Mod: +0
CHA: 13 (15-2racial) Mod: +1

Total = Base + Mod (base depends on lvl)
Fortitude: 6 = 2 + 4 (Consitution Mod)
Reflex : 3 = 0 + 3 (Dexterity Mod)
Will : 0 = 0 + 0

HP: 14
AC: 19=10 + Armor(4) + Shield(2) + Dex Mod(3)

Base Attack: +1
Grapple: 5=Base Attack(1) + Strength Mod(4)
Attack Bonus(melee): Base Attack Bonus(1)+Str Mod(4)+Size Mod
b]Attack Bonus(ranged)[/b]:Base Attack Bonus(1)+Dex Mod(4)+Size Mod

Weapon 1: Dwarven War Axe
Dmg: 1d10

Armor: Scale Mail
AC bonus: +4

Skills: Total = Rank Points + Mod
Climb 6 = 2+4
Handle Animal 2 = 1+1
Intimidate 5 = 4+1
Jump 6 = 2+4
Ride 5 = 1+4
Swim 6 = 2+4

Feats:
Weapon Focus:DwarvenWarAxe (racial feat)
Dodge (Fighter)

Class Features:
Stonecunning
Dwarven Weapons

Miscellaneous Items:
Backpack
Waterskin (In Backpack)
1 day's trail rations (In Backpack)
Bedroll (In Backpack)

Deity: Moradin

Appearance:
Eyes: Brown
Hair: Brown
Height: 4ft 2in
Weight: 172
Other: Has a scare across his left eye.

Background:
Ulfgar had been traveling around, and learned how to fight by doing so. When he found a place to stay, this was a human town, the people did not respect him. One day a person had killed 5 people and everyone thought that Ulfgar did it. They cut across his left eye, so if anyone saw a dwarf, they could identify it was him. He is now 42 years old and is adventuring around the towns.

Jaegar · Post by **Jaegar** » March 30th, 2007, 8:41 pm

cool. looks like we have a party. I think I'll go start the campaign.

hmm? your skills look weird. What are the negative modifiers? also, a score of 12 is a +1 modifier (wis)

Dark Falco · Post by **Dark Falco** » March 30th, 2007, 9:21 pm

Fixed, Thanks Jae